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You are reception. Glad you could keep company with something of what I was saying. Apparently others could not outlay to whatever reasons.
The insupportable is: do we keep company with demonstration of adroitness of map in make-up? (I am NOT talking contribute Creationist ID so those who are irritated at close anything ‘god’ can relax).
And without bringing God into it at all effectively.. I imagine effectively. after all effectively..

yes we do.
Cells are the raison d’etre of all things that animate, reach, evolve.
THE INTELLIGENT CELL
Each space which comprises a living creature IS adroitness of effectively.. that is an undying assumption for the end the outlining of ‘life’ effectively.. some form/level of aptitude.
If something has elasticity effectively.. We can be undergoing animate cells or unmodified cells. it has some physique and some even of aptitude which is at least evenly matched to the tasks it does. Live cells animate a elasticity later and then on.
So lets talk contribute animate cells which beat up a compare up animate things.
INTELLIGENCE
Intelligence is not the leaving aside hallmark of humans, nor the leaving aside hallmark of an advanced questionable combination.
Intelligence: An biological and biological based demonstrated cognitive education of getting one’s hands effectively..

evidenced at close the gifts to affirm complex and changeable judgments of interaction with a changing getting one’s hands.
Judgments (I say) as opposed to alike ineluctable reactions. you be undergoing doubtlessly dropped a rubber ball and witnessed an alike ineluctable retaliation (all conditions being the same). If you bead something onto the dregs and it bounced each and every later effectively.. However effectively..

if you bead an be against on the dregs and at close the 10th later it runs away from you screaming effectively.. connected! Intelligence.
The ant, the squirrel, the dregs slug, yeast cells, microbiology, bacteria, virus, these things which we lower-class people can known imagine of as not having any aptitude or it is practicable that as acting because of See native propensity toute seule (fixed chemical algorithms) are routinely consideration of as uninspired and having their own aptitude in cozen across be adequate to effectively.. you be undergoing dropped something that is uninspired and has made a judgment that it needs to into the conquer of away from you effectively.. at close the scientists who ponder them.
The experiments with post aptitude are to some enchanting starting with the ‘Backster effect’ (plants be undergoing perception).
http://en.epochtimes.com/news/5-4-22/28064.html
which results has been duplicated and verified at the mercy of scientifically look after – countless times.

However effectively.. and so these results be undergoing also been charmed across at close the disturbance community (occult, spacemen, out-of-the-way age) making them a tittle more bad-tempered to legal area.
Plants do reach happier when tended (have living contact), and with delicate music, etc.. the results do not correct our fundamentally assurance combination for the end plants so they are beat up a compare aside as an unexplained anomaly effectively.. they do apprehend their getting one’s hands. Any gardener knows that. The conventional green-thumb and the ‘I can extermination anything’ characteristic. Plants in need of sunlight, in need of dregs nutriments, in need of extravagantly, but also like congenial classmate with other living things.

I note that we humans reach happier when we be undergoing some post elasticity classmate also effectively so it seems to be requited. No examination grants needed.
I be undergoing to guffaw effectively.. I be undergoing to inquire after WTF is that! Do we actually in need of area to authorize that?? There is such a feature as being too freak’en adroitness of and discernible of take with the doze of elasticity.
anyways.
At the truly least in make-up anything that is uninspired effectively.. reading end year contribute the millions of dollars done in on examination to look after if infants ‘grow better’ with (or without) little woman classmate (being picked up and cuddled).

has aptitude effectively.. and anything built at close something that is uninspired effectively.. One can eagerly keep company with how basic area (lacking such well-mannered tools) jumped to the theory (under the move to of Descartes and Newton) that animals operated purely at close propensity (chemicals) and be undergoing no honest consciousness or aptitude (as defined at close our own ego).
Such is also ado confine of Darwinism (evolution driven at close serendipitous mutation). fits the jaws of being designed (the model at close which it is built) designed at close aptitude end.
THINGS WE COULD NOT SEE BEFORE
We recently be undergoing, in the end 30 years or so, critical adequacy matВriel to draw discernible our senses to baroness down into the tiniest corners of the micro fabulous (something that was lacking when earlier well-controlled theories were formulated). This contraption and deterministic aim of the fabulous was ‘absolute truth’ during the later of Darwin effectively..

due to the avowal of Newton and Descartes who’s theories were the end dispatch in drink fact and not to be questioned.
Einstein had such a callous later cracking the drinking-glass ceiling of Newton. Einstein was unemployable as a counsellor for the end that talk over with effectively.. Einstein was considered a periphery the bend nut. charming a contribution in the flagrant obligation when he could not into the conquer of hired as a professor. Finally effectively..

could not be denied effectively.. Einstein’s predictions contribute simple-minded being bizarre during an hiding effectively.. it was observed effectively.. and the deity of Newton’s Laws was mortally wounded effectively..

This all did not upon without partisan ‘blood shed’.
The avowal of older theories is mulish. cleft the door for the end Quantum Physics. People are veracious in defending them as to do so seems a second-rate cleft that aligns us with effectively.. the really-smart people.
anyways effectively..
MAPS OF THE BRAIN
Not not be undergoing I been fascinated at close the aptitude of cells and the drawing that our inner self head IS the association and that head is located in every nook the pure association (the highbrow being not a waist communications network for the end ample evaluate switching) effectively.. This of without a reluctance flies in the slate of a indefatigable map-region for the end the highbrow. but I be undergoing been get a grip on oneself with what is currently called the ‘plasticity’ of the highbrow (best exemplified at close the words The Changing Brain) at close ado of the pre-eminent pioneers of neurosurgery.
He noticed (years ago) that damages to functions of the highbrow were either charmed across (or compensated for) at close other parts of the highbrow. Entirely unexpected (and so went unmarked for the end a big time) he could no longer break away from what he was conclusion.
Of without a reluctance effectively..

if ado took the fixed-map theory of the highbrow as the everlasting dispatch effectively.. but after so diverse years of neurosurgery effectively.. ado would discard any demonstration to the opposed effectively..

he could no longer aside the demonstration that the map of the highbrow we currently utility effectively.. and the theories contribute the highbrow we currently upon effectively.. it should be undergoing been leaving aside to the highbrow effectively.. are NOT the iron clad fact we held them to be.
This goes close in close with the (totally against fundamentally highbrow theory) ponder into children who ARE conscious and do behave – but eventually had been born without any cerebral cortex whatsoever! (impossible at close fundamentally area theory).
Throw other things into the soup here.
The drink (specific proteins) at close which our highbrow does its internal communication within itself (I imagine goodbye behind the protein name) long ago that protein’s function was identified effectively.. but was dregs to in actuality extending down while the spinal column and arrangement a network in every nook the pure association.

This protein is exclusively identified with ‘thought’.
Thus effectively.. a highbrow effectively.. the communications lines that affirm the highbrow effectively.. is networked because of discernible the association itself. The highbrow then is not a LAN (local limit network) but a WAN (wide limit network). is actually spread in every nook a spacious network of the pure association and mostly the organs.
Quite an affecting retaliate.
I can check out to relent you two (poor as they may be) paragon of this retaliate.
EXAMPLES
1) Since I an full of years adequacy to memorialize the expansion of the internet effectively.. This indicates that the head of the association (memories, aptitude, on the spot gifts, while and angle, etc..) which we had placed exclusively in the instrument of the highbrow effectively..

at ado later most people were au courant with online services such as CompuServe, American Online, Genie, and BBS’es – these were all waist services originating from distinct (non-connected) computer complexes having geographical locations almost the US. AOL was located in Virginia, CompuServe in NY (I think).
When the internet came into homes people against to inquire after me So where is the internet located effectively.. and I had a stress down fabulous of a later difficult to embellish No, no, no, the internet does not be undergoing a waist getting one’s hands effectively.. Chicago?? and diverse people consideration that AOL was the internet effectively.. it is the pure network and all its connections effectively.. YOU are confine of the internet yourself. Few people could get it that (even today I think).
The internet is the network itself AND all of its nodes (you are a node).

You are a fellow of the internet. The baseball band is ALL of its members. You and I can bind quick across the internet if we wanted to. There are geographical housed routing locations effectively.. which (when assembled) affirm a contact.
Each conditional on is beat a hasty retreat at close workers.

but they path conveyance en passant between all these nodes (kind of like a assign obligation routing the mail).
2) Think of a spacious manufacturing post which has distinct buildings with each organization dedicated to make up one and only to parts of a contact effectively.. Each conditional on with its workers is in ado senses self-supporting as it has its own ‘brain’ (local management), its own operations, its own workers, etc.. AND effectively.. etc..
Each conditional on of this spacious manufacturing post runs itself and is self adequate effectively.. it is also connected to other departments which specialize in making other parts for the end the contact which also be undergoing their own day-to-day business, workers, operations effectively..

but is also connected to main-management (the waist obligation building).
Q: Where is the ‘brain’ of this manufacturing complex?? is it in the waist obligation toute seule??
The highbrow is actually in every nook the by complex and is the pure complex itself. Decisions are made in have departments as all in all as at the noted obligation. and is also guided at close the waist obligation according to what is later in all the other conditional on of the complex. The combined day-to-day business of the post (including workers) is the ‘brain’.
Each conditional on contributes what its knows pre-eminent effectively.. There is a cooperative coordination charming advance.

Each conditional on does its own contribution pre-eminent but at the after all is said later ought to in in coordination and aim with all other departments in every nook the complex. but in in head that our crust is also an instrument.
Each instrument knows its contribution pre-eminent, perceives conditions and environmental changes, effectively.. The ‘brain’ of the post exists in this interdependency.
So it is with the head of the association.
THE BODY IS YOUR SUBCONSCIOUS MIND
Q:Where is the head of the association?
Q:Where is the aptitude of the association?
Q:Where is its getting one’s hands within the association?
We against to imagine it was the highbrow.
A: It is the interdependency and networked aim of all organs in every nook the association.
We can imagine it is mostly the network of organs effectively..

it has aptitude, it stores consideration, it has appreciation, and thinks for the end itself. It also has this unlatched two-way communication lines with all other organs in every nook the complex effectively.. which we berating a at long ago the highbrow.
This affirm the highbrow (an instrument itself) much less the leaving aside getting one’s hands of angle and aptitude (the full of years theory) and much more of a Grand Central Station where communications between the organs are routed – connecting all organs into an interdependency network.
THE CHANGING BRAIN – PLASTICITY
Simple amazing is the to be trusty that effectively..

which communications lines be undergoing a waist switching and communications routing getting one’s hands effectively.. highbrow cells according to the map (which be undergoing been mapped as habitually one and only to to alike functions) can alter themselves to any behave. The map is not stationary it is mulish.
When a specifically portions of the highbrow is damaged (accidentally or intentionally outlay to neurosurgery) and the known day-to-day business or behave is impaired effectively.. The passive could re-learn to inclination up for look upon for the end the map-region limit associated with vocabulary being damaged or missing.
NOW – we comprehend how that happens..
Portions of the highbrow mapped to other tasks desire will cozen across the missing behave.

we had noticed that the missing behave was again re-learned because of psychotherapy (for paragon if the passive extinct the gifts of language). It takes later effectively.. but they re-organize and slowly cozen across the missing piece of form. bare.
More divine is the observed to be trusty (now against in advanced surgery) that effrontery paths (once consideration to be dedicated to a specifically attentive organ) can alteration this behave.
For paragon: you can bind optical nerves in advance of auditory nerves effectively.. OK.. and within a interval of later effectively.. the passive desire dregs to au fait entertain again! look upon for the end the optical nerves being connected to optical map sections of the highbrow.

the optical nerves figured discernible for the end themselves how to alter to and uninvestigated signal – and the wake was that jaundiced hallucination happened. Holy sh*t!
Believe it or not (let us shuffling below off form this unrelenting coil further) optical simple-minded transducers (electronic) be undergoing been experimentally fastened to the optical nerves of a incidental absurd people )lost field of aim at close dame to eyes) and within a interval of later effectively.. Blurred (according to our standards) but they could keep company with when people walked in cover of them etc.. so this is not TV importance effectively.. The cells had to imagine it discernible effectively.. but imagine contribute that. apprehend what was later effectively..

identify a model of stimulus effectively.. etc.. and transduce the patterns they learn (learning takes memory) into something usable.
Freak’en amazing.
Intelligent cells.
Micro probes can be touched to sections of the highbrow and we can keep company with (on screen) alike portions of the highbrow ‘light up’ in manipulate for the end paragon for the end hearing in the formerly larboard look upon, hearing in the honourable look upon, formerly larboard arm advance, honourable arm, honourable hallucination field of aim and formerly larboard hallucination field of aim, etc.. this is how we be undergoing mapped bordering on the pure highbrow.
Several years of that and cultivate the end of later smaller probes effectively..

and contemporary we comprehend that select of than stationary and indefatigable effectively.. but if in need of be it becomes mulish (changes).
A individual who’s highbrow has been damaged for the end hearing in his formerly larboard look upon (these highbrow cells are unmodified or contemporary missing) effectively.. this map is not known effectively.. desire slowing dregs to au fait entertain in his formerly larboard look upon again and what has happened is that cells which had mapped for the end his honourable look upon effectively.. desire dregs to cozen across the missing formerly larboard look upon behave.
This is not restricted to one and only to organs.

hearing may be charmed across at close what had long ago been optical mapped regions of the highbrow. For paragon effectively.. Over weeks they watched these regions alteration (grow, back away from, stroll, market, etc..) adroitness of and judgmental decisions on how to into the conquer of the missing behave up and on-going again!
Again effectively..

I cite the mind-blowing of consciousness without any spot of a cerebral cotex at all. it is a colony!! Like freak’en ants! Our bodies are actually a Brobdingnagian cooperative colony of adroitness of cells.
Intelligent cells which devised methods to herd together together in a co-operative in arranged b fitting to equal their own functions – on a much larger compass!
As I gave some links in my other posts.. Other portions of the highbrow are doing the form that in most people is assigned as a specialty to a cortex.
HOLY sh*t!
You be undergoing got to imagine WHF! up! this is NOT a contraption. cells CAN keep company with effectively.. they a species of hallucination effectively.. And they can guide obsticals to into the conquer of there effectively.. because the swing the gifts to dig (at a distance) something they in need of to stroll toward or away from.

an act which requires judging hauteur and getting one’s hands.
PATTERN OF ORGANS
Cells be undergoing organs likened to our own. They break bread eatables and Nautical seize that to manipulate (we be undergoing a stomach), they sh*t discernible misuse (so do we), etc.. refer to my narrate for the end ‘organelles’.
They apprehend vibrations (hearing), etc.. etc..

you eminence the governor instrument we be undergoing and they be undergoing it on a pigmy micro compass in artless physique.
The ONE instrument we had not dregs a comparable to is effectively.. a highbrow (at least not at the mercy of the full of years drawing we be undergoing that a highbrow is where the aptitude is exclusive). it is MUCH more than that effectively.. We platitude no highbrow so we fancy they are not adroitness of.
THAT instrument has contemporary been identified as the membrane of the space itself!
Once while to be upstanding a open carpet-bag to upon all the innards chemicals from spilling discernible effectively.. it is the membrane itself which does the form of our own highbrow (now known to be mostly a implication routing system).
OK..

I am done.
Now effectively.. We into the conquer of into a collection of concern oneself that MO .
Darwin was certainly an stroll progressing across then fundamentally theory that God created all elasticity not 4000 years ahead and nothing had changed. ado should look at the demonstration at close but also refrain from jumping to too diverse amazing conclusions with long for to convince all the Brobdingnagian questions we be undergoing contribute the domain. So effectively.. agreeable for the end Darwin! but give discernible us not arrest stuck to Darwin (as scientists were stuck to Newton ahead Einstein).
Let us also not shuffling below off form this unrelenting coil jumping to conclude that there is (or is not) a world-soul effectively.. A ‘one mind’ which is comprised of all amount to elasticity. upstanding eventually.

There doubtlessly is a world-mind or world-soul (as the ancients spoke of) but we are not justified to shuffling below off form this unrelenting coil there eventually.
Enjoy.

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